What's the deal with the Jonathan Galindo/Blue Whale Whats the deal with the far cry 3 praise? Disney is so exacting and woke with that stuff. Kyle Pallo #13 Kyle checks in, viewers check out. I will let someone else handle recap duties please! Inside gossip forums - and why they're so alluring. A petition by one targeted YouTuber Michelle Chapman, AKA Mummy Chelle, to ban the site has close to 26,000 signatures, at the time of writing while certain individuals affected are reportedly taking legal advice. Including my office building. Who knows, who cares, I dont. Recent wait times at Royal Hall and Anna & Elsa's Royal Welcome. New Fireworks Show & More Coming to Disney Cruise Line for Silver Anniversary, Taking Your Child to Disney in Costume? #3 - The Ohana Adventure. (My apologies if this is not the protocol). There are others but those are the ones I watch on the regular. Omfg stitch hands!!!! Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:42 pm. Really great people. 'Its not happened to me, but there are stories of people whose kids have been targeted. Recap: The trackholes continue to post outdated uninspired home movies. VIDEO: Pixar Pals Celebration from Pixar Day at Sea Aboard the Disney Fantasy, Best Ice Cream Spots Around Walt Disney World, No Standby Line When Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway Opens at Disneyland, Four Walt Disney World Attractions Worth Park-Hopping For. He mentioned in an earlier video that they also have reservations tonight for Blue Bayou. '(Both Hooper and Brathwaite declined to comment, for this piece. All of these vloggers are a part of some serious toxic drama. BLAB has 4 spots in the top ten Disney vlogger thread. He deserves more views; his content is informative and he has a very sweet personality, Adamthewoo is a good one but he is based in socal and has often visited the parks. The last few years should have taught them to first deny any wrongdoing, then say it's a hoax, then blame someone else. I think we have to accept that this is out of hand. But what does motivate someone to scratch over the minutiae of someone's accounts and unpick everything from their new winter coat to how they hold their baby? The petition references Slockbower mocking a disabled guest riding a scooter in one of her videos. #1 - The ACE Family. But theres a difference with legitimate criticism (which lets face it needs to happen ALOT with the lack of parking trams, Magic Key availability, push to mobile order, Genie +, you name it) versus annoyingly complaining about the hand that feeds you and then hawking channel merch for a heartless money grab!! You might have heard of the site when beauty journalist Sali Huges uploaded a video to Instagram, claiming that an extraordinary level of abuse had been written about her on the platform including about dead loved ones and comments on her children and husband. The Tim Tracker #99 Ive got 99 problems and Jenn is all of them, Best Life & Beyond #68 Katie Slockbower what a winner! Thread title comes courtesy of @Maleficent50 This is also true for other issues like disinformation. by ziggy777 Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:33 am, Post Disney Cruises look like fun, but are they really that much fun when your day to day life involves videoing yourself on Disney theme park attractions, eating at Disney restaurants, etc. I am so sick of the woke folk and trolls trying to destroy good people. Welcome to your one-stop hog roast for Dinky Disney Dipshit, Kyle Pallo. Calling all lowlifes (sic) and jealous hatters (sic) of Disneys very own first-class-flying monkey, Kyle Pallo! Universal released all the information regarding HHN while Dim doesn't have a chance to monetize someone elses work and creativity. Alarmingly, Okafors account was deleted by Instagram in the wake of her comments on social. Fox also references Slockbower selling and promoting her products, even asking for money in the parks. Magic Journeys, I love the way they edit their vlogs. Inside The Star Trek Enterprise - Full Walk Thru Tour of Classic Cars & Neon Sign Overload at Last Day of Mecum Big Changes Finally Coming To Disney World - Park Press J to jump to the feed. It's so interesting and well done! Michael and Dave Kay #12 Uncomfortably creamy and not very dreamy, Tattle Life is owned and operated by Lime Goss. ('Gossip is one way we develop and reinforce social ties, and so gossiping on these sites is likely to be rewarding for some people, particularly if they dont have strong social connections in their face-to-face life,' says Sarah Rose Cavanagh, psychologist and author of HIVEMIND: The New Science of Tribalism in Our Divided World.). We give our profound thanks to @MichaelKaysHairyBack for the title. I'll have to check them out! #5 - Daily Bumps. Plus Disney World and Disneyland Paris content. and the cruise involves videoing yourself at the Disney Cruise restaurants . Vincent Vision is going off on a tangent right now about how he didn't go to Galaxys Edge to be first or for clout, he just wanted to go because he's a star wars fan. She coughed over a dozen times and he sounded congested. It also mentions Slockbower, who is white, attacking an African American family, including children, on the Mark Twain riverboat. For his part, her husband took to the 'gram to deny any knowledge of the alt account, and to say that he: 'can't condone or fully understand why Clemmie did what she did.'. poll recommended by @OutofScope . I've not seen Tom & Sophie mentioned yet, I watched them a while ago & thought they were pretty ok. Shame on them for apologizing. You are using an out of date browser. by Animefan28 Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:08 pm, Post Many, if not all of us have a mean side to our personalities that could be unleashed under the right circumstances. [Its important to note here that the racially-motivated tone of some of 'AliceinWanderLust's' posts, plus the fact that Hooper is a working midwife in the NHS, render them especially worrying. Ive never seen someone do that who wasnt a teenager. In the last episode our hero made a radical departure from filming his feet, himself in the shower, himself eating like a caveman, himself getting drunk, car parks and concrete at Disneyworld to travel to Aulani in Hawaii (at the expense of pornstar-named stan Dick Breed) to film his feet Time for a new Tracker thread, the title is courtesy of @VloggerCritic We all have dark and light sides, but we try to only portray the latter and are we scared of the former, repressing things like anger, says Dr Perpetua Neo, a psychologist to high performers. I was trying to post this as FB finished so wed have a fresh chat for blab! Justin Scarred is my favorite. I think its hilarious that in a time where people talk about themselves and thier own bubble, that a reason to not like Tim Tracker is they talk about thier own life. Also she has creepy paw hands that she waves in front of the camera or pats around on her hair CONSTANTLY. Kyle Pallo #10 Kyle got lei'd by Dick Breed! And then he was involved in the Disflix fiasco a couple of years ago. Thanks to @esc2476 for our new title - it was actually a tie with @OutofScope's suggestion, but as esc2476 posted their idea first I went with that. Tattle Life is owned and operated by Lime Goss. ', The ugly truth behind relationship anxiety, Four simple language swaps = new positive mindset, 11 signs your partner is emotionally unavailable, How to do a wedding budget and not get stressed, How to save money: Why financial self care matters, Love Island: Maya Jama on right age for host role, People are befriending their Amazon Alexas, 'I used a goal planner to boost my productivity'. Jenn even said they're doing fine without it. But with anonymity, even a normal person can become a troll. I see there is a petition on change.org to try and restore their status with Disney and Universal. I am not foolish enough to believe that they aren't doing it for the SuperChats - but I will say, they read a TON of comments from the live chat during their livestreams that aren't paid superchats, they try and interact with everyone. Katie has falsely claimed she is an RN, and used that claim to push anti-mask/anti-lockdown rhetoric. This carelessness for this 60 year old -ish man to what looked like shoving his way to the front of the line, in front of children is just a very bad look. Sure be sad, but get the crying over with before you video yourself. His voice just grates on me!. These people are lying, cheating grifters and should be banned from the parks! Thread title courtesy of @TawdryT Do you have a youtube channel so can bag you on reddit? Said they needed to travel at the height of everything for both their mental health and because they were "essential workers". And her take was that his sole purpose for choosing that location was to taunt all of the Disney fans he wasn't allowing to go to the parks. I was watching a few videos today, and one couple specifically made a dig about if you want to complain about Disneyland, go to Reddit. Just gets to me how some folks talk a whole lot of nothing, only because they have tens of thousands of subscribers. I am currently battling a chest infection (testing daily, staying home 'cos you know I have ethics Thread title courtesy of @2020planner This weeks title comes from Quasimodo inspired by Reddits own BoodleNoodle. I really liked Thingamavlogs, but they no longer produce content. They had so many people asking if they were ok but didnt give any update even a brief insta story. lookin through photo albums. Life Disney on YouTube does a whats happening Wednesdays live every Wednesday and other videos throughout the week. You cant expect people to never get it wrong. 'I think that the number one thing we need to address is that how so many of these sites and platforms operate in terms of their sorting algorithms and which posts get the most exposure. We're far more stringent with our rules and moderation than any of the big social media companies on our moderated forum. Some people go to gossip sites to vent the frustrations from their lives by dishing out mean-spirited posts. I had never heard of them until they appeared in one of Adams vlogs. Winner of the last pool with a whopping 70% was no surprise: Katie getting a paying guest trespassed from Disneyland (Columbia incident) Best Life And Beyond #57 Happy birthday, miss. So what might be the deal with Hooper who alleges that she went on Tattle Life to defend herself, and got swept up in the tidal waves of negativity? How does it feel to be on the end of these comments? Did you mortally offend him by not kissing his chubby, hairy little ass? I am also no fan of woke culture, but they are part of that culture and I am happy to see them lose free stuff from Disney and universal. Thanks to @Mr Flibble for our new thread title - witty (and scarily accurate) as always. My family are criticised. His style is very high energy but he does incredible research on history and such. Your father seems a little drunk. Thread title courtesy of @curious_penguin } Rumour is they are on their umpteenth cruise of 2022? Watch none of them. Justin Scarred is my favorite. I cannot stand these two people! They often wear matching shirts and ears. Oh! They're one of three or four YouTube vloggers that we watch, and are probably the most consistently upbeat. by Zephyrhills Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:37 pm, Post Diskneelvr shared a screenshot of the sick vloggers, seemingly from a video. ResortTV1 #5 Hi-Ho! #6 -.. Tattle.life. Oh well, too bad David. Not really my cup of tea. on: function(evt, cb) { If the trackers did anything to mock or culturally appropriate any culture, Jenn is delusional if she thinks Disney will associate with them again. Basically big karen and disney adult energy, extremely annoying disney vloggers who tend to show up in the woo's videos quite often and may even live with him when he's in CA? JavaScript is disabled. If youre still blowing your nose and mucus is coming out, then you are contagious. I have signed. by momofdog Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:22 am, Post But they have SO MUCH content. This blog is about the 13 top family vloggers that have made a lot of people giggle and also monetized themselves with that. . Happy Belated Bday to the King of Diet Mtn Dew, @KingLlama, who got the most votes, BY FAR! My Moments With Mom. That, I was unable to draw from the horse's mouth. Reddit user No_Point_6996 describes an encounter with the influencers: I got stuck behind them last year on the Fourth of July at the plaza inn. TimTracker is fantastic, although they are based in Orlando. Hooper has verified that she did indeed have a secret account on the site, via an Instagram Story confessing on the 8th November. Kyle Pallo #14 This thread had a funny title but Kyle deleted it. Very down to earth and fun to watch! Don't deny it. I was really sad when they broke up and even sadder by how messy things got post break up. Anyone like to do a quick recap for us? As guests who are not vaccinated need to have a PCR test. It's every little thing. The Tim Tracker #90 I "WISH" Jenn Would Shut Up. Nate rode some rides, ate some food, and turned as red as a beet at every opportunity. listeners: [], window.mc4wp = window.mc4wp || { DISboards TotD: Are We Doing Disney Genie Wrong? 'Like all social media sites anyone can join and post a comment and we encourage people to report any that overstep the line as we take all reports very seriously. She also referred to "three unwell" people who apparently have a bunch of burner accounts to email the companies. Every time they strike me as a bit odd and creepy, and they dont seem to have many fans around here. Self-doubt creeps in and you start to question if what is being said is true. Thank you @Amandaleigh for the new thread title. Best Life & Beyond #59 KT Slockbower's Best 600 Lb Life & Beyond, Best Life & Beyond #58 Tony's Fraud On a Scooter, Spencer's Shirts Cruder, KTs Brows Furry Protruders. by UniversallyNik Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:58 am, Post My daughter and I enjoy Justin Scarred, but he drives me husband nuts! He's really the only one I watch w/ any regularity. ), 'I know these people are saddos, but it does take a couple of weeks to fully realise that', As to why she did read the forums, when she heard of them? This gentleman cleared his throat and said, dont give these grifters any money when she walked by. For the latest Disney Parks news and info, follow WDW News Today onTwitter,Facebook, andInstagram. Just go yourself people , nuff said. Read the Pros and Cons First. I also like how well organised their YT is. You must log in or register to reply here. She does pat her head!!! Dude, you a hundred percent were there because you wanted to make a video to be first. We lock threads when they have 1000 posts, click the blue button to see all threads for this topic and find the latest open thread. New thread. forms: { For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. QuiteGoodAndAwesome 1 yr. ago. For one lifestyle influencer in her twenties, who wishes to remain anonymous, gossip sites have proved devastating. Ohana of 3 #1 They want everything for free, dont you know she has a bad knee? I havent seen the tracker urban party video, so I dont know how bad it is, but I am not woke and I wouldnt do something like that. Theres a multi page thread talking about it over at tattle.life includes pictures!! I much prefer Adam the woo types. When TimTracker goes to Disneyland (he's based in Florida), the videos are lots of fun. Katie will most likely be there since she NEVER misses a meal and Spence loves those BB Hurricanes. ResortTV1: I actually really like Josh and Jenna. Reddit users also referenced Slockbower claiming another guest assaulted her after she was coughed on. Reddit user winnmab describes that video, which has since been taken down: Basically she was hawking some merch on the Columbia during a live stream and kept showing the other guests. Thanks to everyone for the comments!! They were at the front of the line and wouldnt let anyone else get their food because they kept reshooting saying happy Fourth of July multiple times. Welcome to the first thread for the ultimate complainers, Ohana of 3! Best Life and Beyond #64 Katie & Spencer have no friends. View most liked Disney Vloggers posts on tattle, Best Life and Beyond #73 With KTs Divorce not to be finalized til 2024, all on Main Street keep whisper, The Tim Tracker #102 We're in The Grifted Program. Extra kindling on this fire comes via one alleged recipient of Hooper's words, mummy blogger Laura Rutherford (@that_mummy_smile). Great reviews, attitudes, and camera work. Congrats on thread title #100 On Tattle Life, I've been slated for my voice, what I wear. Reactions: we"reofftoneverland. Thank you Congrats to @Jackprot! Dr Neo explains that, when someone starts to reply to you on these forums, your brain releases a hit of the 'happy hormone' dopamine [as with when you get a flurry of hearts on your IG sunset pic]. Thanks to @AliceSpillstheTea for the new seasonally appropriate thread title! A parenting pack mule. She says that she is 'deeply sorry' for what she did. So ITM recently posted a video of vloggers who got stuck on the PeopleMover, which was the point of the post. The thing is, if what they did was inexcusable and told their fans not to make excuses, why did Jenn basically tell people to email the companies about getting their status back? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Perhaps the cruellest thing you've ever said has no placed being coded into cyberspace. The drama. If you go back and watch the video from them on last Fourth of July when theyre at the plaza inn Im literally right behind them. } 'We allow commentary and critiques of people that choose to monetise their personal life as a business and release it into the public domain. She had him interrogated and thrown out of Disneyland with his kid claiming he assaulted her.. They took California shutting down during COVID as a personal affront and a deliberate attempt on the part of Governor Newsom to thwart THEIR ability to enjoy Disneyland. Good riddance. Intellectually, I know these people are saddos, but it does take a couple of weeks to fully realise that., She also claims that certain site members have attempted to create IRL implications, reporting her to the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) for alleged misconduct, with regards to paid-for posts. We lock threads when they have 1000 posts, click the blue button to see all threads for this topic and find the latest open thread. #13. Women's Health participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links to retailer sites. I have watched Fresh Baked a couple of times, but it really feels as though half the time he's trying to guess what Disney is up to. This situation demonstrates how powerful the online disinhibition effect the tendency to say and do things online that you would not typically do in the face-to-face world can be, details Dr Suler. It appears that in-group behaviour took over. Thank you @GInursemyass for the thread title! He has no woke agenda and is just real. Patreon subscribers or KT's chin? Ginn finally got around to uploading their first HNH Vlog, and it didn't even contain anything from HNH just them making the massive drive from Lake Nona to Universal Studios and looking at the Tribute Store. They can buy a ticket. Talk about hypocritical. MissSha.and all was right with the world. 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